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Old 12-01-2005, 05:11 PM
rachelwxm rachelwxm is offline
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Default Re: 2/5NL live - JTs

I don't like this play. Here is why:
On flop folding 35 is not an option, so you either call or raise to isolate. What are the pro and cons?

raise:
you have some chance to push them off weak Q, cleaning up some of your outs. But what are they? You said the allin guy is pretty wild, so you can win unimproved if he has two lower cards, but chances are he has one card higher than Q or has some small pair. Assuming those two guy are passive (this depends on your read) so you can get to river cheap. So your str8 outs are always clean. So by raising to isolate, you risk allot if they called you since you are never ahead if you get called and they allow you to draw to str8 cheap. So the added outs (maybe 6 more J and T since you can rarely win UI even he is wild) are certainly not worth the trouble of the risk you might get called as a dog.

call:
With all the above plus your hand is well disguised and will certainly get paid if you hit your str8 outs. You might or might not give up your JT outs by calling.

so to sum up,
here is your outs:

if you raise and they all fold:
main pot (str8 + J or T) +some rare chance you can win UI

if you call
main pot (str8)
side pot (str8)

Obviously I make some assumptions may or may not be realistic here.
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