Thread: a KK fold
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Old 05-31-2005, 03:33 PM
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Default Re: a KK fold

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I raise for a free showdown sometimes in this spot.

Krishan

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This isn't a board I want to raise for a free showdown on, especially after BB gets called in 2 places.

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Here is the parlay.

1. Flop leader doesn't have an ace. Maybe 50% of the time?
2. Callers have flush draws/no ace. 70%?
3. Evenyone will call your raise and check to you on the river regardless of whether they have an ace or not because they will be scared of a slowplayed set, strong ace, flush.
4. The 4th flush card doesn't come on the river.

The advantage to raising the turn is you won't get 3-bet very often and when you do it's an easy fold. Your getting great odds on a raise because of the middle players looking to hit a flush. (Getting odds on a raise doesn't make any sense I know but it sorta works). If you have odds to call, call a non-spade river (you are getting somewhere around 5-1), raising is better as it charges drawing hands with a card left.

Now I don't mind a fold. I'm just talking about a line I use in this situation sometimes. Gimme a bigger pot, a laggy BB and I'm more inclined to raise. One caller in between and I'm less inclined to raise.

Krishan

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Two reasons I considered calling the turn as opposed to raising for the free showdown:
1) I call the turn intending to fold to a river bet thinking BB won't bet again with less than an Ace. (Definitely not foolproof)
2) BB might check the river giving me a free showdown anyway. However, if UTG now bets I call and if CO bets I can fold.

Nice post, btw.
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