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Old 12-07-2005, 09:11 PM
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Default Re: 5/10 VPIP major hole

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Can anyone else think of a mistake you guys see alot that weak-tight players are doing? Thanks in advance

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-Not adjusting their game play to the table conditions.

-Not attempting to steal the blinds often enough.

That's really all there is--the examples you gave have been gone over pretty well already. So it's often just a case of learning when you can loosen up your limping (and raising) standards on a table; if there are a lot of loose players at the table and it isn't raised preflop all that often, you can get away with limping a lot of hands from a lot of positions. On the other hand, if there are one or two really loose, really bad players, you should be raising with a lot of very borderline hands in an attempt to isolate (note that these hands should uniformly have good high card strength, as loose, bad players can rarely be bluffed out of a pot. At the very least you want a good (KT or better) king to isolate with, maybe something like QJ or QTs if you're really confident in your postflop play).

And then there's stealing the blinds...you need to do it pretty often on 5/10. And, since your opponents are also doing it often, you need to defend your blinds regularly against steal attempts. A pretty good list of hands that you should be stealing with is included in Hold'Em For Advanced Players, and a search of these forums will yeild a ton of discussions about this topic.

3k hands isn't a whole lot, obviously, but VPIP generally firms up pretty quickly. If you're at 12 after that many hands, you're most likely playing a 12 VPIP game. My advice? Play some 6max, either 3/6 or 1/2 as you get used to it. These games are great for learning to take advantage of position and be more aggressive in your play (both pre and postflop). And there are a ton of really, really bad players at the 6max tables, at least on Party.
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