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Old 12-20-2003, 05:19 AM
elysium elysium is offline
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Default this one nags me a little

average 10-20 with decent opponents, especially after a raise is put in. i'm on the button with black JJ. the UTG raises in and is called by the MP who reraises. she would do this with A9s or 77; i call and the UTG 3-bets.

the UTG may raise in with QJs, but he will only 3-bet with AA or KK. then, the MP caps it.

i know that i perhaps should have folded right here. but, i reasoned that i was getting good implied odds because these opponents are heavy on the calling side, and also might allow a turn card for 1 bet. they had this tendancy.

so i called. well, the flop lands with a mighty T79r; well, of course it's raised by the MP, i call and the UTG reraises, and the MP caps it. i couldn't decide what to do, call or fold.. there was no quick answer. i just casually called it, but i was not at all sure that this call was correct. does anyone know?

just then, when i didn't think things could get any worse, the turn rags putting two diamonds on board. i wasn't concerned about a diamond flush draw as much as i was the MP raising. the UTG bet-out, and the MP called. whew.....but still, i wasn't sure what to do.

i thought i was ahead of the MP, who might have ATs or other such holding, but i knew at the highest level of certainty that i was behind the UTG. he had AA or KK and nothing else. i couldn't decide, but in any case didn't want to become analytical. so again i just casually called. was this call correct? i had only 6 clean outs.

the river) the 8d.....weeeeeee!! oh, i know i'm always on everyone's case about one card draws, and this was an inside one card draw. but my read was so strong that i knew my straight would be good, and my raise on the river would be called by both opponents. this would have been true too had a J fallen on the river. the third diamond on board runner, runner was no problem because the MP would have raised the turn. she had this tendancy with draws. and i could tell by how she put the chips in on the turn. the diamonds were safe for me. and i knew that if i hit my 6 outer that i'd get in the raise on the river.

but was my turn call correct? it nags me. if my turn call was correct, was my flop call of 2 cold correct. that nags me a little. i still don't know.
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