Re: TPTK on the turn- co-ordinated board (0.5/$1 Paradise Full RIng)
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I am pretty far from shillxness (Yes, that is what I call the prowess that shillx has for this game), but here is a shot on why you should fold:
You actually laid out most the points yourself. I do not think hero's TPTK w/ no redraws is best and is getting lousy odds to continue with a str8 draw and FD on the board and facing BB's turn donk and a LP raiser yet to act. Now for odds, there are 7.5 BB in the pot. Assumng we are behind and drawing, I only give hero at best 4 outs (dirty A[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] puts 4 flush on board) asssuming someone doesn't already have a str8 or flush. You would need at least 10.5:1 pot odds to call here and I do not think a raise folds a better hand.
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I folded pretty much for the reasons you gave, but in particular it was because of the tight LP raiser left to act, and the threat of getting caught in a raising war, because I really didnt want to have to call 2 more bets. The raising war did ensue, and the turn got capped, but then they both checked the river blank (2 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img]) and BB took it down with his pocket sixes. I'm happy with the fold though- I magine LP must have had A8 or AJ, likely with the A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]- I'm losing much more than I'm winning on that turn board.
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