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Old 05-02-2005, 11:36 PM
schubes schubes is offline
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Default Re: drawing 4 or 5 in draw poker

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First of all, let me state that you shouldn't routinely draw
four or five when you are heads up (or even when the small
blind completes after a button limper) to your ace or king
unless you intend to pay off with a hand like 22A (except
when you know you can't possibly win).

When you are heads up, even with the SB and are facing a bet
post-draw after you have drawn 4 (or 5), you must pay off
with 22 against someone who sometimes bluffs in this spot.
If you are not comfortable with this (as many players won't
be!), you should probably often draw three to your hands,
even if you hold something like QJxxx.

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What??

What is the basis for this advice? The limper will nearly always start with 22 beat or have a draw that has 20ish outs to beat 22.

Lets pretend we live in a world where the SB routinely limps with a high card (they don't, most players fold high cards, and some sometimes steal raise). Because the limper will sometimes bet without a pair we must always call?

And let's pretend we are dealing with some hypothetical limper such that calling with 22 is correct. Why would we ever want to discourage their huge mistake by drawing 3?

This wouldn't bother me so much if you didn't always post in such a didactic tone.
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