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Old 07-28-2004, 06:07 AM
ethan ethan is offline
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Default Re: help settle the debate

I'm confused about the pf action. Did the button limp before it got to the BB? Raise? I'll assume he limped.
So, regarding your friend's play:

pf raise: terrible. check here and play for a set, it's _early_.

flop bet: well...he's already put in a quarter of his stack. If he's going to bet he should push here, but he can't imagine he's ahead in the hand. If he's against any Q, T, or 9, or AJ, or AK, or KJ, or J8, or 88, or....yea. he's screwed. And "fishy" people are likely to call with any of the above. So. terrible. There are so few hands the opponent can have here that hero wants to see...66, 8x with x<7, etc.

turn bet: Hero's now dead to a tie against any J, and has a 6-outer against any Q, T, 9, or 8. And he makes a bet that has _zero_ chance of getting rid of the aforementioned fish. Of course by now all-in is just under 1/2-pot, so he's in trouble regardless.

If your friend's less fishy than the rest of the table, I guess he should check-fold the turn and hope to get his chips back later. This hand is pretty awful [img]/images/graemlins/smile.gif[/img]
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