[BobboFitos]

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This may be weak, but I fold on the flop often. You're not going to be making a lot of money against worst hands (which hands are going to call that you have beat?) and you stand to lose a bunch if you go into call down mode.

Actually, the more I think about it, maybe I'm lying. It's so player dependent.

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You have to be lying, josh... He is raising 20+% of his hands, this flop has missed most of them, (prolly raising more in LP, and maybe more to isolate UTG) so our hand is good a big % of the time. After his pot bet, there is 160+$ out there, or 20+ BBs. Raising is better then folding, imo.

I would imagine you're reraising bigger PPs vs such a LAG so is it safe to say then you'd only play on with set, two pair, or pair + gut? If so, you're feeding right into his strategy, as most of the time you wont break him at all if you play on, whereas he'll pick up the pot a rediculous amount of the time.

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I think if I do anything I'm just calling here and seeing what he does on the turn.

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I like this. It doesnt mean I'm folding to a second barrell though. Alot depends on the turn card as well. I'm not concerned about UTG, either, as he probably opens the pot with a bigger pair, so only draw he could peel would be gutshot or random straight draw type stuff... So if he plays on, we found out for the minimum we were behind (not pfr, but original limper)

Cost of protecting this pot (vs most likely ~6outs, esp. when we have a hunch on the worst scare card... an ace) isn't worth expending an additional 80 to make him fold the 6 outer. If UTG wakes up w/ a hand you lose more, and you still allow PFR to push you off your hand. (or in the rarity he DOES have a draw, like if he's raising 78 or whatnot, he will and should peel correctly)

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I don't know what raising the flop hard does either. Are you trying to get him to fold a better hand or call with a worse one? I don't think either is happening. Sure you get to protect your hand against high cards sometimes, but I don't think building up that pot is the right way to go.

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Also, I bet this turn for a few reasons. (This might be bad advice and I'm ok with getting flamed for it). First, if villain was trying to peel with overs, you take it away now. Well, hold on, I think I'm doubling back on myself again. An overpair would definitely love to CR this turn. And you did pick up a bunch of outs if you are behind. Yeah, I check behind here, too.

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Actually, the turn is interesting. If I bet, I'm pushing. I most likely check, too. But I'm not convinced: a. his flop call means i'm toasted and b. if he knows we minraise monsters, a push enforces that. we have lots of equity in this spot, and hiting a 4str8 probably (although it could) wont get paid off.
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Umm, anything else... yeah, river is a fold.

This post was kind of worthless, haha. Sorry.

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I think your post was good. River I think I'd fold, you may be good about 25% though, so it's pretty marginal.