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Old 06-29-2005, 08:06 PM
DcifrThs DcifrThs is offline
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Default Re: blind war w/ two great players

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Repeating what's been said..

The J makes this a fold IMO. Turn should have been bet.

Nigel

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you guys need to get out of your little box.

if somebody raises with the correct frequency on the turn, what is your ev by betting....ZERO!!! if he's doing it correctly then it doesn't matter wtf you do, fold, call because its worth 0 to you.

so by passing on a 0 ev spot you can maybe gain a large fraction of a bb from a call on the later street or induce a bluff.

stating blindly that betting the turn is a must is very narrowminded.

on the river why can't p2 have raised for a free card? and decided to bet the river as a bluff? the jack virtually assures he doesn't have a jack. from p1's perspective a T or 8 or even 4 would bet the turn...a 4 would be very likely to bet the turn ... so from p1's perspective its hard to see what p2 has so he calls thinking K high may be ggood w/ some of those hands that have enough to raise for a free card.

-Barron
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