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Old 04-14-2005, 04:25 AM
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Default Re: Simple preflop situation: UTG raise, min reraise.(Results.)

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Online NL, 9-handed.

Hero (UTG) has the table covered, and has been playing tightly.
Villain 1 (UTG+1) has 22 BB, and seems pretty loose.
Villain 2 (MP2) has 32 BB. No read.
Most players have 80+ BB.

Hero has K[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]

Preflop:
Hero raises to 4 BB. Villain 1 calls. 1 fold. Villain 2 raises to 7 BB. All fold to the hero. Hero...?

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Hero pushes. Villain 1 folds. Villain 2 calls 25 BB with K[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] K[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]

Hero wins with a flush.
Villain 2 tilts off 50+ BB in the next two orbits, giving another 30 BB to Hero.

I pushed in part because I thought it was likely that Villain 2 was raising with something like QQ because Villain 1 is likely to have worse. QQ may not be a favorite against the range of hands I have, but if I will push with anything better than QQ and just call with anything worse, someone with QQ gets a lot of information from the minreraise. If Villain 2 has QQ and Villain 1 has Ax, it's a potential disaster to let them see the flop (without getting the money in first). However, in retrospect, I think it was very likely that I was just making life easy for someone with AA.

If the stacks were deeper, I would be happy with the suggestion some posters made of calling, then playing poker. With only a pot-sized bet left, I didn't think I would learn enough from the flop. On a low flop, someone with QQ will still like his hand, and I'll still be behind AA.

Since I wasn't happy with either option, I decided to post the hand. It was interesting to see that some people think this is an obvious push, and some think it is clear to call.

Thanks for the suggestion made by two people to raise more hands UTG. However, that doesn't help me in this hand. Also, despite the fact that I usually limp with JJ or AQ or worse, I usually have no problem getting action when I raise UTG. If people were folding too much, it would make more sense to raise with weaker hands. Since they call too much, I want to play hands good enough to play out of position after showing strength. So far, my results from EP have been quite positive.
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