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Old 09-18-2005, 12:57 PM
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Default Re: Poker is an American game

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While poker's origins may lie in Europe and Persia, it truly developed in the United States.

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Exactly my point.

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"As American as apple pie" is a common saying in the United States. However, the expression (its full form being "As American as motherhood and apple pie") is clearly metaphorical, rather than literally trying to claim origin, since both motherhood and apple pie predate the United States. It expresses the feeling that the concept "America" is not just geographical, but instead — along with motherhood and apple pie — is something wholesome.

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Well, if you think about it, wholesomeness really began in the United States. Before the Declaration of Independence, the world was still somewhat semi-barbaric with the British, the Dutch, the French,and the Spaniards using violence to spread their empires. The US was truly the first country that expanded peacefully from the first 13 colonies to Alaska and Hawaii.

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To attract German sailors, eating stands along the New York city harbor offered "steak cooked in the Hamburg style."

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But it is not really a hamburger until it is placed between two pieces of bread which collectively are called a "hamburger bun". The hamburger as we know it is purely an American food item. The Germans just saw it as another version of steak, not a fastfood item.

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Again it is not quite clear who actually was the first to introduce sausages with bread roll in the States. Whoever it was, the “dachshund” sausage roll became a very popular fast food in the early 1890s in Chicago where it spread to the rest of the country. People began to serve the “dachshund” sausage rolls in baseball parks and soon having hotdogs at the games became an American tradition.

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See my opinions about the hamburger. If you eat the hotdog without bread, it is just sausage. It has to be sandwiched between two breads for it to qualify as a hotdog which is an American invention.


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Most cultures have some sort of stick and ball game, cricket being the most well-known. While the exact origins of baseball are unknown, most historians agree that it is based on the English game of rounders.

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Stop trying to give credit to other countries what is rightfully American. I'm sure the cavemen played with sticks and balls but that does not make it baseball.


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The one thing these all had in common? American culture developed them into their modern forms, but they all had their history elsewhere in the world

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Louis Armstrong invented jazz. And he was 100% American. In fact, they named the New Orleans airport after him.
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