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Old 04-11-2004, 10:05 AM
M.B.E. M.B.E. is offline
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Default Re: Flopping Quads -- Sick Feeling I played this Wrong

I've found this too -- it's not always easy to extract the maximum chips when you flop a monster in a NL tournament. I posted a hand about a week ago where I flopped top set with QQ, three-handed, then turned top full house. My small bet on the flop got called, turn was checked around, and both opponents folded to my pot-sized bet on the river. I received some useful advice in that thread if you want to check it out.

In your hand, first it is possible that you did extract the maximum. Your opponent's flop raise might well have been a hand like 99, thinking that you could have raised preflop with AK.

Other posters said that your opponent may have seen through your act. Perhaps, but not necessarily. If your opponent did have something like 99, maybe he just decided that after you call the flop raise, he's not putting in any more chips -- especially when the jack comes on the turn so if you started with AK you now have a straight.

I think you have to make a small bet on the turn when it's checked to you. Hopefully your opponent has AK and will check-raise you (putting you on the queen or possibly AT). There's 1770 in the pot, right? And you have 1800 in your stack? Maybe bet 350. If your opponent has a medium pocket pair he'll fold, but you don't lose anything since he wasn't going to put in money on the river anyway. If your opponent has AK he's not going to fold to a bet of that size unless he's extremely good. If he has a queen, or a flush draw, he may still figure he can afford to call a small turn bet.

Then on the river (if he does call the turn), the pot will be 2470 and you can move all-in for 1450.
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