I'll also toss Winstar into the mix...

Let me give a couple examples of the types of players you have here...

One hand was 7 handed to the flop after my raise on the button... I had AK(H) and the flop came Jxx two hearts. Someone in early position bet out, three callers and I raise. Turn gives me a heart and I bet it and get all calls. River brings a J, and I know I'm beat... EP doesn't bet out with the nut full house and flips over his cards half expecting to lose.

Players telegraph their hands so much its insane... The ONLY time I have ever seen someone raise preflop is with AA or KK... I have also seen someone check 4 aces down to the river... In the entire time I have played 4/8 there, I have only once encountered a good player, and apparently went to OU. He showed me a pretty easy trick you can do to a player with a big hand who bets out.... Reach for chips as if you will raise and see what they do. 9/10 if they have a monster they'll grab a stack of chips right away.