[crabbypatty]

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Okay, everyone, thanks again for your advice. I have read most of the Zadeh and Wiesenberg books. Winning Poker Systems is a great resource indeed. I didn't like the Wiesenberg book, though. I found it chatty and unfocused, plus all of the disucssion of the game assumed the use of a bug and the jacks-or-better rule. (It seems good for lowball though, so I don't regret buying it.)


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sorry that you didn't get much from wisenberg's book. i thought the same thing the first time i read it. my advice play a little more and reread it. just the parts on double limit draw p.149 through no-limit draw p.163 of course you do have to make some adjustments because of the # of players and the joker but, you should get your investment in the book back by a very wide margin. (just for curoisity, how much did you pay for it, with shipping?)

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I just got CRUSHED in my first shot at the 24h PL games, which made me feel quite pathetic. Any advice on how to adjust to those game, compared to play at Paradise, would be appreciated. Do you raise the pot when you open? Raise another amount? Limp? Different plays with different hands?


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well you are new to draw to begin with correct? getting crushed at big bet poker seems like an understandable thing.
i would advise to raise when you come into a pot. also to play squeakie tight. what limit are you starting at? in other words don't come in with less than aces. if you are playing the higher limits. 2-4 and up.(and i can't think of a reason why you would be) then you will have to come in with more hands but, that is another discussion.

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I had no clue about that so I was basically experimenting. One thing that worked good was when I limped with 777 utg and then reraised the pot when someone raised. One player called and drew three. I drew one and bet half the pot after the draw. She folded. Otherwise I took down some pots predraw and lost most of the pots I played til showdown.

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i like this play.(first half) one question though: your position relative to the caller with AA?
what i don't like about this play is your bet postdraw. were you first to act? if so this makes a little more sense. were you willing to lay your hand down if raised the pot, which is substantial now? if you were last to act what do you think your opponent will call with? how about if they ck-raise you? are you going to lay it down now? maybe a better play with small trips is to draw 2 and ck it down or ck and call a single bet. many of the players there will draw 2 to big pairs so aces might bet at you if you draw 2. let's hear what the rest of the peanut gallery has to say about this one. <font color="red"> come on, speak up peanuts! </font>

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I felt clueluess in situations such as when I raised utg with Qs up and someone reraised the pot. (I called predraw, checked and called a small bet after the draw and was shown Ks up.)

And if you raise in EP with AA and someone rereaise, should you fold?


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well as to getting crushed the first time you played. this may be why?
calling the reraise and the bet after the draw with QQXX. this is not a terrible play. questionable but not terrible. however this play is indicative that you were probably being <font color="blue"> held over</font> your entire session. sometimes you just can not win.
as to raising with AA and calling a reraise. first do you have position? did anyone limp behind you? do you know your opponent?
this game is ALL about position and knowing your opposition!
i would sooner call a reraise with AA than i would with QQJJ without more players to call me after the draw in case i fill with the 2pr. 10.75:1 against you btw. i would also prefer to have position. if i didn't know anything about my opponent i might call to learn but, it is much cheaper to let others do the calling for you and check the hand histories.