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Old 08-27-2005, 04:05 PM
Randy_Refeld Randy_Refeld is offline
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Default Re: Not allowed to read the rules?

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My local cardroom is Canterbury Park. I believe the rules are available in the cardroom, although I have never asked. The rules are published on their web site. They also have a detailed glossary in case of any confusion as to the meaning of basic English. Failure to provide the rules is unfair and insulting to players. It's also a cop-out and cover-up for lazy, incompetent, insecure floormen. If a floorman knows his job, he should have no problem discussing the rules with a player who has read the rules.


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What is posted on the website is similiar to what you would find on the wall of a card room. Those are not complete rules and procedures, that is what the player needs to know.

The main problem problem with giving players the comnplete rules is the players always skip over the part that says the floorman will rule in the best interest of the game even if that means violating a strict interpretation of the rules. Poker players are also notorious for lelaving out some details and applying a rule form another situation that doesn't apply to the current situation. Here is an example (a very similiar situation occured with some well known players involved,):

In a touranment the limit is 400-800 with 200-400 blinds. Under the gun player puts 600 in the pot. Floor comes over and rules this is a raise. A well known poker personality writes about this situation describing it as above and mentions the floor made a horrible ruling (after he thre a tantrum at the actual event). Seems pretty clear floor got it wrong. But there were a couple detail left out. The limit had just gone up from 300-600 and the BB only posted the 200 and the UTG player put in 600 so the floor ruled correctly that the UTG player made his intention clear that he wanted to raise so he correctly ignored the literal rule that you have to put in more than half a raise to raise. The people involved in this example are well known in the industry; if they have a problem with fighting about what the rules say why would you want to give all the angle shooters a rule book so when their angle shot is disallowed in the interest of fairness they have a book to pull out and argue over? Note: I might have the numbers wrong in the example, but the incident occurred on a cruise in 2001.
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