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Old 11-05-2005, 07:14 AM
Freudian Freudian is offline
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Default Re: stop n gos....ineffective?

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I don't think it matters if they are. Remember one of the conditions for the stop-n-go is that they will automatically call 100% BTF. Therefore there is nothing to loose.

Example:
5 plyrs table blinds/antes: 500/1000/100=$2000 pot
you are in the sb w/$2200 left w/T7s.

You feel you need to make a move since the table is too aggressive to give you any first in vigorish oportunities.

A push gives bb ~2.5:1 making it a must call yet you know he will check a limp with a below average hand. If he has a 50% chance to fold a missed flop than you now have 25% FE that you didn't have before.

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That is one of those cases where it almost never work though. Sure it is nice the few times that it does.

I think the potency of the move close to nil unless you have enough chips on the flop to be able to make the opponent doubt that you are automatically pushing. The basic assumptions still apply. You want to have a hand you want to play and you know he will miss the flop often enough.

A good spot for stop'n go is if you are in BB with 6xBB and button minraises you. You call with 66 and push all flops. It is much less obvious than the panic stop'n go. Of course if you think there is a big chance he will fold preflop, a resteal is order and a fold preflop might also be the correct play.
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