[Kurn, son of Mogh]

Listen, Salt, if you take Brady's OT record and do-or-die record, that's 4 wins per season attributable to Brady's ability to *get the job done*. None of that has anything to do with the Patriot's defense or the overall composition of the team.

Add to that the fact that in the two Super Bowl years, he had arguably the least talented running backs and wide receivers in his division and it's clear to people who understand football (like Bill Walsh) that the difference in NE being just another playoff caliber team and winning two championships is the quarterback.

Show me another QB in the NFL who, over a 3-year period, when faced with under 2 minutes remaining in a game and his team must score to avoid a loss, has been successful over 92% of the time.

I'm not saying Manning isn't talented, but all the passing yards in the world don't compare to that one stat. Manning isn't as clutch *with* Marvin Harrison as his go-to guy. Ley's trade Harrison for David Givens and see how Peyton's stats look.