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You save a bet to get to showdown, this is of benefit to you. Not saying it is the best line, but when you get an opponent to check with the best hand he had no intention of folding, it is awesome for you.


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I agree. I meant in the context of this hand with only bet-fold and check-call options it really is not a consideration. If we choose check-call, then if he checks with a Q but bets with a 4 it really won't help us if we are check-calling anyway. I mean it does save us a bet sometimes, but it really doesn't get figured into our reason to check-call. It makes sense to me at least, but then again its 3am....(actually I have no idea if this makes sense, I know what I'm thinking, just not sure if what I'm writing matches it)