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How much do you propose raising here? Pot? And how do follow up on what will likely be a totally missed flop? On a two low flop? The trouble with raising low equity, low playability hands like this is that unless you follow through with bluffs, you become transparent post flop when you do hit.
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Okay, let's say that the other hands really are as icky as the sim. Theoretically we should raise the pot (in position, knowing likely everyone will call the full raise).
And then, Phil's first scenario: A missed flop...
http://twodimes.net/h/?z=1413317
pokenum -o8 ad 2d 6s th - 2h 4h js qs - ah 3h qd ks - 3d 4s 7h 8c - 9c tc jd qh - ts jh qc kc -- td 7c kh
Omaha Hi/Low 8-or-better: 300 enumerated boards containing 7c Td Kh
cards scoop HIwin HIlos HItie LOwin LOlos LOtie EV
6s Ad 2d Th 17 17 283 0 85 36 0 0.188
Qs Js 4h 2h 0 0 216 84 24 53 0 0.118
Ks Qd Ah 3h 23 26 273 1 24 53 0 0.122
4s 8c 3d 7h 35 44 256 0 4 117 0 0.138
Tc 9c Jd Qh 3 37 179 84 0 0 0 0.145
Ts Kc Qc Jh 34 92 124 84 0 0 0 0.288
Once again, surprise, surprise. We're really not in that bad of shape. And lucky us, we have position over the guy with the wrap. Having position here would be a big advantage, imo.
So I have to assume that this guy is going to lead right out. I mean, he would be a fool not to, and although there are several hundred fools at the PLO850 tables, most aren't this foolish. They usually lead right out when they hit.
So where does that lead us? Well, I'm assuming he will lead out, and everyone else will drop. With this kind of expected value do we call? Do we call a half sized bet? Pot sized? If we absolutely know we will be HU? If we know that no further bets can be made and we will receive two free cards (assuming one player is all-in)? If we assume we will fold on fourth if we don't improve?
What say the mob?