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Yes,

In a lot of games this hand is far superior to any other hand out there.
What 2s, 3c, 4c, Ks. Piece of [censored], you are drawing to the second nuts both ways unless you KNOW your opponent has 4 A's.

A lot of people lay the above hand down to a raise. I do. Obviously if I knew my opponent had 4 A's I wouldn't, but it is a piece of [censored]. I would lay down KKQJ double suited to a raise as well.

I definitely would never limp with AAAA, I also wouldn't even play it if there were too many limpers to me, but this hand definitely makes everyone else's hand look horrible.

Take a look at the hand that beat his [Th 5d 9h 3d]... an absolute piece of [censored]. Obviously it isn't worth making a move in this game against a field that has no clue, but against real O8 players, this is an EASY raise.

Am I missing something or don't you understand that A's are very very important in O8.

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I understand that Aces are very important in O/8, but they aren't strong enough to have 4 of them in your hand- they're not much different than any other quads IMO. 3 in your hand is barely playable and ONLY with the right field AND the right 4th card.
And I said PREFLOP, not post. If your plan is to limp in with quads, Aces or otherwise, to see what you can get away with post-flop, sign me up in your game.