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Old 11-10-2005, 05:26 PM
benkahuna benkahuna is offline
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Default Re: Is checking out \"unethical\"?

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"unethical"...bad choice of words by the OP.
"unsportsmanlike" or "not proper poker ettiquette", definitely.
I wonder how the amount of B&M experience influences the opinions on this. I would guess those with 5+ years have a different view than those with less.

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Again, there is no explanation.

I have not played regularly for more than 5 years, but I did start playing B&M more than 5 years ago and certainly before I ever played online. (Although I had little idea of what I was doing until about three years ago.)

Checking out is stupid because you are giving away information that you do not need to give away, but there is nothing improper about it. It does not clearly help one player or the other even though it may influence their action. Of course, if the check out was collusive, it is unethical, improper, unsportsmanlike, immoral and illegal -- but that is true of any collusive behavior.

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I still don't get it. No one has explained what is wrong with this play in terms of etiquette. If you make a very weak check, it also gives off information to a middle player (in a 3-handed game) that you don't have chit. This situation is especially so if you're typically tight aggressive and bet your hands that have much chance of winning.

I'm about ready to contact the rule master himself (Bob Ciaffone) about this one because this thread has gotten me curious.

It seems like the disadvantage of giving up all right to the pot can be made up for with the advantage of people not knowing your cards in some rare circumstances. I fold when I have no chance of winning all the time online.
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