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Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 4 handed)
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Preflop: Hero is Button with 4[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img].
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1 fold</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, <font color="#666666">
1 fold</font>, Hero calls.
Flop: (7 SB) A[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 8[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.
Turn: (4.50 BB) 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, Hero calls.
River: (6.50 BB) 4[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">SB bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">SB 3-bets</font>, Hero ?
Final Pot: 12.50 BB
Party Poker 10/20 Hold'em (6 max, 5 handed)
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Preflop: Hero is Button with 9[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], 9[img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img].
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2 folds</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero raises</font>, <font color="#666666">
1 fold</font>, BB calls.
Flop: (4.50 SB) T[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 7[img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img], 5[img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
BB checks, <font color="#CC3333">Hero bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB raises</font>, <font color="#CC3333">Hero 3-bets</font>, <font color="#CC3333">BB caps</font>, Hero calls.
Turn: (6.25 BB) 7[img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] <font color="#0000FF">(2 players)</font>
<font color="#CC3333">BB bets</font>, Hero ?
[/ QUOTE ]even tho hand 1 is similar to a WA/SA situation, I think we must raise the flop because even though we have our diamond draw, hands like KQ QJ KJ still have too many outs(especially if they contain a diamond) Given that we didnt, the river is a pretty easy call. I can see AK AQ AJ doing this. As far as hand 2, I would need reads here. Against most opponents I fold this on the turn(but then I'm not raising this flop), but against the very aggro ones that can do this with either the FD or the OESD or two random overcards, I call down. I personally wait to raise the turn after getting c/r in hand 2. It has to be a safe turn though, otherwise I just call down and bet when checekd to.