Buzz - once again you provide excellent statistical analysis. There is one factor that you omitted from your analysis that is crucial to to determining a winning player. That is the size of the pot(s) you play in. This may be determined by the number of players or the number or raises during the play. Would you like to win a large number of small pots (maybe even 1/4 of some) or would you like to scoop a small number of large pots? As Mark Twain said, "ther are lies, damned lies and then there are statistics." [img]/forums/images/icons/smile.gif[/img]