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Old 08-29-2005, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: Mechanics Questions -- All in.

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I have a few questions about what to do when someone raises all in, but cannot make a complete raise.

Situation 1. Player 1 bets $10. Player 2 raises to $16 (total, and is all in).

First, my understanding is that since the raise ($6) was more than half of the previous bet, this counts as a raise (for purposes of determining the maximum number of raises). Also, even if no one else raises, Player 1 can re-raise.

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Only if this was a limit game. If it was pot- or no-limit, it's not a raise and betting isn't reopened.

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When the betting comes to Player 3, what are his options? Call $16 obviously. But if Player 3 wants to raise, would the minimum be $16 + $4 (completing the raise) or $16 + $10 (adding the previous full bet)?

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NL, he raises to $20 or more as if the all-in wasn't there. limit, he can raise to $26.



[/ QUOTE ] Situation 2. Player 1 bets $10, and Player 2 raises to $14 (total and is all in).

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Now NL and limit are exactly the same- the raise isn't a raise, the all-in is treated as if they aren't there (other than having to call a certain amount if you want to limp)

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Does anything change from the previous situation with Player 3?

Situation 3. Player 1 bets $10, and Player 3 Bets $15 (total/all in), i.e., exactly 1/2 the minimum raise. Is this considered a Raise, Can Player 1 re-raise if there is no intervening raise?

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Yes, half or more in a limit game is a raise, we're back to the first situation- Player 1 can make it $25 to go for anyone else.

At least, that is my understanding.
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