Re: KK vs. maniac--I can\'t respect his raises
id bet 35 or so. i would also raise to 14 preflop. u dont want to play this hand against so many people...would the lag definately call a larger raise? if so id try to bring just him along. u need to bet strong on this flop...if im called by anyone but the lag i would probably slow down on the turn (fearing set or 2 pair) and value bet it for about 45 or 50 assuming one called and a blank hit. if just the lag comes id keep gettin after it.
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