[Zele]

True, 5 is the max, and indeed it would be a trivial call if we knew we had 5. But I do believe our non-A [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img] outs are clean a significant majority of the time we are beat. Given that, we only need to have the best hand and have it hold up a few percent of the time to make this a call given our immediate pot odds. [My original post was poorly worded as it did indeed suggest we had 5 outs most of the time, whereas I'd say we only have 5 outs a lot of the time.]

Would you make this fold? Would you fold the river UI?