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We PSU fans are used to having undefeated seasons w/o mythical national titles. Even so, we've managed to get more than one national title in the last 57 years.

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If you want to debate the storied history of our football programs, I'd be more than happy to. Michigan will stack up and destroy PSU in nearly every way, shape and form, including head to head to record (8-3 vs PSU), national championships (11 vs 2), conference championships (5 vs 1 since PSU has joined the Big 10), BCS Bowls (3 vs 0), Heisman Trophy winners (3 vs 1), and any other stats you would like to throw out there. The only thing that I found that PSU has more of is all time bowl wins (18 vs 23), though Michigan has been to 28 straight bowls and PSU hasnt won one in 5 years nor been to one in 3 years.

On the subject of National Championships, I'm pretty sure that Michigan has the only one in the last twenty years between the two teams. And if the AP title is mythical, I'm not sure what a real championship is since its the longest running championship out there (also, tell USC that they are only going for a repeat and not a 3peat and see what they say). Were it not for Tom Osborne's perfectly timed retirement announcement, Nebraska would not have jumped from 2 to 1 in the final Coaches Poll that year.

I love how PSU has one good year in the last 10 and suddenly is a great program again. Win a few more games, national championships, Heisman trophies, conference championships and come back and talk to me.

Oh, and finally - SCOREBOARD 27-25!