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let us assume that it is the absolute truth that doyle laid down aces full to quads in a limit game.
to all those who say it is a terrible laydown in any limit game no matter what read you have on your opponent, i say baloney. according to the FTOP, it is correct to lay aces full down to quads depending on the odds the pot is laying you. doyle brunson is arguably the greatest poker player to ever live...who are you to dispute his read?
hell, twice in the past 2 months, i've seen amatuer players make laydwns in no limit and pot limit games that were nothing short of brilliance....and that many of you would say are terrible.
the first was in a $2/5 B&M n/l game. the player called a preflop raise with QQ in the hole. before the flop even came, he held out his cards as if to muck and says to the dealer something to the effect of, "if the flop doesn't hit me, i'm done with the hand." the flop came A-Q-rag rainbow. the player with a set of Q's then says to the dealer, "that's not what i was looking for, dealer." the PFR bets, and the player with middle set insta mucks face up to the astonishment of everyone at the table. the PFR tables his set of Aces after having the pot pushed his way.
the 2nd instance was very similar, but in a $1/2 pot limit game. there was a raise in early position. my wife re-raises from the BB with KK in the pocket. HU to the flop, which was K-Q-7...2 clubs. my wife leads out for about 1/2 the pot. the original raisor then makes a sizeable raise. my wife comes back over the top. the other player then mucks a set of Q's face up. neither my wife, nor the other player had more than $200.00 to start the hand. also, neither my wife, nor the other player are considered to be among the better players at the table.
tripdad
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The whole point is that this is a LIMIT game and the pot was most likely laying Doyle ridiculous odds. So he got this one right, but if his reads are ever wrong (
Which they sometimes are) he is making a HUGE error. If the pot is 20 bets it costs him 2 more bets to get to the river and win 24 bets. He's getting 12-1 to call down. That means his read has to be right 92% of the time for it to be a breakeven play.