I usually lurk elsewhere, but i wandered over to this forum and found this inspiring post. I'm sorry i dont have the patience to read all of the replies to this nonsense, but I;m going to try to give a complete answer - not because you'll listen, but because it'll make me feel better. Im trying to recover the brain cells that suicided when they read the OP.
"They usu. don't bet each other if they're in the hand. "
They're friends. They're there to have a good time. Of course they dont bet each other. I'm not saying that thats not marginally unethical, but it certainly doesnt do much to 'hide' the collusion you seem to see, which you would expect them to do. If these three guys are playing as badly as you describe, i would encourage them to almost anything they liked. I would offer them food and drink (weed too if you have it), i would try to make them feel welcome. You and your idiot cronies have decided that the most reasonable thing to do is cheat them. Brilliance.
"If one of us raises with a good hand, all of them call so that your odds go to crap. "
That isnt even close to how odds work. Yes, the more opponents you have the less likely it is that your hand, which is best preflop, will be the winner. Please search the forum for explanation of "EV." You 'odds' dont diminish when 3 players call your pf all in with AA, KK, QQ, JJ. Your odds of winning the pot diminish, but your EV increases. Once again, if three players call your all in when you have AA, KK, QQ you have MADE MONEY regardless of the outcome.
"I love those of you that think you could just come in and break them so easy. See what happens when you raise with KK, and you get calls with 46, A7, J10, and 23. You either get sucked out on or lose to 2 pr, a flush, or something f'd up."
You, sir, are an idiot. This just isnt how it works. I'd like you to go to
www.pokerstove.com and put in those five hands and see what resuts you get. You may find them illuminating (then again, you may not be able to understand the results). In fact, you may find pokerstove to be a very interesting tool....or not.
Look. This has absolutely nothing to do with collusion. My guess is that this kind of beat or 5 way all-in situation happens maybe once a session, and it really pisses you off. Then you spew chips. Stop spewing and you'll stop losing. If these players are as bad as you describe, who the hell cares if they split up the money at the end of the night. Three donkeys on the same bankroll are still three broke donkeys.
yours, fighting entropy
-doodle