well kris, i guess i can say i see your point. but i think that what Lee did was part of a bigger thing than one asshole in one game. there are plenty of losers out there who would play poker and dump their cash to you if it weren't for guys who get away with treating other human beings like dirt. if i were a dealer, i wouldn't give 2 shits. the other players at the table are that much more likely to see that i get treated better, and tipped better. but as a player, these jerks are ruining the state of the poker world. so many tourists are intimidated by what they see going on in the cardrooms, stuff like this guy gets away with. sure, in california you are not wanting for soft stacks. but lotsa places lose valuable customers because of jerks like this. besides, its easier to take $$ from clueless people who are enjoying giving you their $$ than from jerks who can't stand it.