The consistent thing is that no matter what evidence you present to them, they think luck is the only factor in winning at Poker.

Your "Clueless Loser" is just a gambler that got lost and ended up at a poker table.

I don't think they have a problem. They make the game profitable and they make the game enjoyable.

The people with the problem are the college frat boys that feel they should win 100% of showdowns because they own a poker book.