Thread: 1/2 PokerStars
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Old 10-29-2005, 01:39 AM
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um if he's raising stuff like KT, KJ, KQ, QJ, AT, A9 then you absolutely need to be 3betting him, coldcalling is bad, and the blinds will generally be making a huge mistake calling if they are doing so with a broad range

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If he's ONLY raising with those hands, then I should three-bet, but obviously he will also raise with AK and AQ, and it is also possible that he will raise missle paiars like JJ, TT, 99, maybe QQ and/or 88. Therefore, while my hand is ahead of some of his holdings, it is trailing against others. I admit that it is close, and I would give more consideration to reraising with AQ, and definitely reraise with any medium or high pair (more on that later), I feel like my edge against his range of hands is small, if anything, which makes me lean twoards cold-calling, simply on the basis of the value of my hand.

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there is a small range of hands that correctly call 2 or 2.5SB out of the blinds when its gonna be 4handed max, if they are calling with a broad range your edge is bigger, and you should push it, however the range that correctly calls 1 or 1.5SB is larger so their mistake in general isn't as bad, when you coldcall

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Actually, I did a few odds calculations on CardPlayer's calculator, and it turns out that if both me and the original raiser both have high cards and we share one of them (for instance, AK vs AJs, as was probably the case for me), then either blind is getting the correct price to call with two no-gap or one-gap live connecting cards, suited or not. For instance, if A [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]K [img]/images/graemlins/spade.gif[/img] vs A [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img]J [img]/images/graemlins/club.gif[/img] vs 8 [img]/images/graemlins/heart.gif[/img]7 [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], the 87 is 31 percent to win, which is good enough to call in either blind (note: since it is virtually certain that the original raiser will call my reraise, especially after his play with KK earlier, then the SB is getting 7.5 to 2.5 or 3 to 1 on the call, and if he folds, the BB is getting 7.5 to 2. or 3.75 to 1.) High live cards, like QT or Q9, are also around 30 percent to win. There are all offsuit hands, so they'll have even more playable hands if their cards are suited. In addition to these hands, it is obviously correct for them to call with any pair, since both me and the original raiser have high cards. Even a hand like JTo with only one live card is 24 percent against AK and AJs, which is enough for the big blind and his 3.75 to 1 pod odds to call, and its about an even money call for the small blind who is getting 3 to 1. So based on the actual hands of me and the original raiser, it is generally correct for them to call with a pretty wide range of hands, or at least about an even money call. If I have a medium or high pair, THAT is when it more often becomes incorrect for them to call a reraise before the flop, and it is therefore better to make a preflop reraise in my position with a hand like 99 than with AJs. If the original raiser has a pair, then my raise with AJs is not as effective, since I have a drawing hand and need to improve anyway, plus if I hit my hand, I am less vulnerable to being outdrawn by a player in the blinds who decided to call preflop than if I had a pocket pair, and often I make more money from him when he calls me down with 2nd pair against my top pair. Finally, it is easier to get away from a pocket pair after the flop even if there is a lot of money in the pot because it is more obvious when you are beaten and you only have two outs to improve. With overcards, you often have to take cards off if the pot becomes too large, costing you more money. This makes calling a raise with overcards more attractive because it will be easier to get away from if you completely miss the flop.

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um maybe your problem is you put in too many bets postflop with Ahi in multiway pots where you don't have draws, and its likely to hit their hands

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I am not really sure what you are referring to, you didn't mention anything specific about the play on the flop and the turn (perhaps you could elaborate), and I can't imagine a reason for playing those two streets any differently than I did. It seems highly probable that I had the best hand on the flop and the turn based on how the betting went. I don't see how the fact that I "don't have draws" is relevant if I have the best hand and they are the ones drawing. As far as them being "likely to hit their hands", the small blind, who after the hand said he had AT, was drawing to two outs, and the big blind, if he did in fact have AK (or AQ), was drawing to seven outs. This makes me an 11 to 3 or 3.66 to 1 favorite going to the river.

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call him whatever you want, but don't let it cloud your judgement

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Agreed.
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