I would be mmore inclined to respond to your question if you did not insult other people by using derogatory adjectaives like donkey. It is realy worthwhile to respect the players that you play with without degrading them by name calling. If you want people to respect you, then don;t call them donkeys. They are someone's father, son, husband, whatever. They may not be a strong poker player, but perhaps there is a better way for you to refer to weaker players than donkey. This is probably not the response that you wanted, but it is all the help that you deserve from me.