Thanks for the reply. I see your point, of course--not raising pre-flop with premium starting hands is bad strategy. But, I guess my question is really something like this; if I know that there will be four or five callers to my pfr, is raising pre-flop with a hand like JJ really +EV? The chances that at least one of those four or five players hold a Q or better are very high, and the chance that an A, K or Q flops and no J when I hold JJ is 59%. Given these facts, is my pfr with JJ still +EV?