So now we have concluded almost that two players I thought were some of the greatest playing are cash game donors. I give up on this crap, it doesn't make my game any better and you get a different story on a different player every time you talk to someone. Continue the debate guys, but I think I'll shy away from thinking about this stuff anymore. Opinion, favortism, all get in the way. Both are better players than me, I can assure you of that!