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btw, Im wondering if any of you guys who watch these shows crack on women for watching soap operas?

[/ QUOTE ] soap operas aren't real though.

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Are any of you old enough to remember if MTV actually ever was music television?

[/ QUOTE ] yes, I am 23.

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wow, good point about the reality thing... although the characters are hand-picked for drama.

I guess I wouldnt remember MTV as music TV since I got cable kinda late. It really shocked me when I saw beavis and butthead and they had music videos in the middle of them, weird.