Re: J8s BB
What makes you so certain you're not winning on the turn? Aside from results, obviously, but if the flop action told you that bottom two pair is no good then your call on the flop is just attrocious (with your read you're on a 2 outer, the other 8s, with a backdoor flush chance). On the turn you're getting 10-1 on a 4 outer (assuming you're behind), which is a fine call. The river fills out the flush and makes your boat, so you're now only behind AA QQ JJ Q8 A8 - hard to put the button on any of those given the action, so I like a cap there - he's likely just 3-betting his rivered flush.
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