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My problem with this line of thinking is that the terrorists can't be defeated. It's like trying to wage a war on murder, or theft. There will always be thieves and murderers and in the Middle East, there will always be jihadists. The best we can do is to set up a stable government in Iraq that can deal with them as best they can and leave them to their own devices.

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There is a difference between individuals committing crimes and organized criminals. We will never stop the psychotics or drug addicted individual criminals, but we can greatly diminish the organized criminals (mafia, barbery pirates).

Terrorists fit into the organized crime category. We can severly reduce or stop it with the right techniques, just as we have with domestic organized crime.