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Old 12-09-2005, 01:20 AM
I.Rowboat I.Rowboat is offline
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Default Re: QQ flop in very large pot

{quote]Did you ready the thread?

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Yeah, I did, and if my less-than-rosy take on the situation is different from the rest of the thread, so be it.

It's a six handed pot on a draw heavy board and you are either WA/WB...and I really doubt you are WA, as big multiway pots almost always include at least one if not two A's. So IMO, you only have backdoor draws to a non-nut flush, a one card straight, a set, or a miracle FH/quads...furthermore, if the players are as willing to gamble as you indicate, your Q outs may be tainted by the presence of a KT or T9, so hitting your set may not be good enough. Oh, yeah, and you are in a pot with a bunch of fish who will almost certainly take any A to showdown, so I don't like the chances of getting a weak A to fold. IMO, you will have to improve a lot to win.

If I held the queens, I would try to get to the turn as cheaply as possible, and I would expect to be folding the turn most of the time. You didn't hit your set on the flop, you probably don't have TP, and you will almost certainly need to hit runner/runner to make the best hand. There is a lot in the pot and it is sure to be a monster by the time it's over, so it isn't a bad spot in which to gamble, but it seems like everyone else is gambling, too, so there would appear to be further opportunities ahead when you may hold a more obvious advantage.

Just my .02 cents, so take it for what it's worth.
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