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Old 10-11-2005, 12:42 AM
RED FACE RED FACE is offline
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Default Re: Brief thought on big hands on draw-heavy boards

Does the prf really have to push or fold here given his 12 outs? Does the set fold to a push on the turn whether it's an 8, K, or (non-boat-making) heart? If so, are non-heart A's not a bluff card for the prf? Could the set put pfr on KTs raising preflop?

If the turn comes K or 8 non-heart especially and pfr checks doesn't he get all the money in by river one way or the other-excluding boat making card of course?
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