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Old 12-11-2005, 09:00 PM
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Default Re: Defeatest Howard Dean Says US Troops Can\'t Win

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A lot of insurgents are iraqis who simply want the foreigners out of iraq.

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Yeah, they want us out so that they can insure a non-democratic government with their group dominating the other ethnic/religious groups. And this isn't a "what if" situation. The majority don't want us out, all though of course they do expect us to leave when their own democratically elected government can handle the security situation. And it's not like we are there to steal their oil or something. The only detriment our presence can have to various factions is preventing them from installing a non-democratic theocracy, run of course by their particular branch of Islam.

And this isn't really extra complicated by there being a widespread insurgency comprised of "various" groups. There are basically only 3 who happen to share the same anti-US and anti-democratic interests: the Saddam loyalist thugs, the Sunnis who wish to impose their will on the Shi'a and Kurds, and those who are Islamic foreign fighters.

Sure would be nice if the situation were even simpler and all Iraqis supported democratic government. But just because it isn't doesn't mean our involvement was wrong to begin with, nor especially since we are there, that we should leave before the job is done. But of course the typical lib viewpoint is that any military action that takes over 3 months must be wrong, epitomized by the views of defeatist and quitter Howard Dean.
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