[Tuco]

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So, we are damned if we do or we are damned if we dont. I had a full argument with Lorinda that we can do rakeback at Empire, and that the owners of empire are in full support of it. She fully says we cant and to prove that we can. Then you come here say we are being secrective and to be out in the open? Either you arent reading or you have an agenda

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Look man. Weather Lorinda likes it or not we both (along with alot of other affiliates) know it happening with the sites consent. Either way, let's talk about it in an open fourm.

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If i were to tell you that Euro moves players back to their original affiliate if they were reopened new accounts would you call me a liar? If i told you empire does the same would you also call me a liar?

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No. All i'm saying is lets talk about these issues. I have yet to have anyone moved back that signed up through me and i suspect that it doesnt happen for you much either.

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You make many broad sweeping strokes in your incoherent babble, please back up your claims that you make.

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I wrote my OP during a two hour span when I was spending time with my hyper two year old. Sorry if it wasnt clear. I'll summarize:

Why aren't you being honest with the readers here by talking about all the issues. Also, why start an open fourm and restrict what we can talk about?

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What is with all you god damn conspirators. We put this forum up and are acting in the best manner we know how. There is no cloak of secrecy or underhanded scheme. We kept raketracker.com out of sponsoring it so you little babies didnt have anything to cry about apparantly you can always find something.

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Slow down with the personal insults. All I said was I hoped that the thread didnt get deleted so we can have debate. It looks like your not capable of this without throwing a hissy fit.

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If you would like me to defend the size and connectedness of my affiliate program, please PM me, i guarantee you will be impressed and you will find the largest poker rakeback affiliate on the interent. There are certain subjects i cant discuss as it may jeopradize my affiliate program. I have never condoned closing then reopening an account, and i still dont. If you read that thread i told the person to go to another skin, is that not a solution? Are you that blind. I thought i respected you tuco, what is your agenda?

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My agenda you keep referring to is to have an open discussion and debate of whats really go on in the rakeback/affiliate world.

Goody for you that you think you are the largest. I guarantee that your not, but what does it matter? If you are that large and have that much power, there are lots of things going on that you know would help members of this forum that are unknown to the average player. It is possible to talk about all this stuff without being specific.

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We opened this forum with a site affiliateEV.com which can help people become affiliates, not with raketracker.com we have not tried to gain a single rakeback player from this forum. My rakeback program is what set the standard for rakeback, it brought about a whole new level of customer service for the player, it provided statistics, individualized bonuses, and its the model from which all the other affiliate are running their sites. I dont need to point that out, its why i am still the biggest, the players settle into where they get the best product, and i am confident i offer it. I have the best combination of service, rewards, percentages, longevity, and professionalism on the web.

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Lol. Very subtle. You could have just said "not with our rakeback site" What is your agenda?

Tuco.