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Old 11-19-2005, 03:19 PM
1800GAMBLER 1800GAMBLER is offline
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Default Re: The evolution of the mid-high stakes forum

I don't think there is much reason at the 30/60 to use 'the triple', if i'm against someone i'm going to play 1000+ hands against over the next few months then metagame considerations become important. I think the most important metagame strategy against these players is putting them on the back foot. Some turn bluff raises, some flop draw caps, etc, find their exploitable strategies. I've labelled finding their exploitable strategies as 'get shania wide', by this i mean, playing legit against unknowns but watching if they fold the river for 1 bet in sitations, or fold to turn raises, then increase your range of hands against them to include bluffs and put them to the zero expectation calls.

Again though, this is against the regulars only. By that i mean, i will turn bluff raise against anyone if i think it is +EV for this hand, but for the regs i will do it if i think it is -EV right now but worth more later on. FWIW, i can only think of about 5 players i do this against in the 30/60 limit, but there are a lot i do it against in the 10/20 nl.

The parts of the last post i think were really good for the forum was,

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Finally, I think it's important to know how the game would be played if your opponent played perfectly. This gives you a framework to adjust as you get information about your opponent. Maybe you never 3-bet for value and then fold to a 4-bet on the river, but it's still useful to know that in a perfectly played game, this should happen.

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If your opponent played perfectly then they bluff 10:1 on their 10:1 bets, or 5:1 on their 5:1 bets, or (like in NL) 2:1 on their 2:1 bets. Knowning this you can, find the ones who aren't doing it. Good example is 88 overpair vs limper who called a low flop who you know has overcards then the Q comes. Some posters, wont think and just bet, some wont bet against some players because they will bluff raise, yet hardly any posters say 'i bet here because he will bluffraise too often, so it's not a tough decision it's a good decision' i think those are the only metagame game theory/percentage plays that have much value in the 30/60.

Plus _considerating_ all plays such as 3 bet and fold for 4 is good poker, but JASucker has said way way enough on that for us all.
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