View Single Post
  #7  
Old 04-30-2005, 12:35 AM
winky51 winky51 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 122
Default Re: KQ in the CO strategy question

Well lets look at the hands he would reraise with

------- vs KQ (assume typical players)
AA He will let you know on the flop of turn of what he has
KK-JJ He will let you know on the flop of turn of what he has. If the ace comes he will call you down.

TT Any face he will call down, might fold at river bet.

77-99 (18) Any face he will call down, might fold at river bet.

AK (12) Most will fold to cap PF and bet on flop and turn if he missed.

AQ-AT (12+16+16 = 44) Will most likely fold unimproved on turn.

So lets add it up and see. Assume the following

(possibilities)

AA-QQ way behind (6+3+3) but you will know quick at most losing 7 small bets
JJ-TT coin flip (12) no one is going to fold here, losing 9 small bets
99-77 coin flip (6)
40% chance to hit pair on flop/turn + 10% he might fold if board is scary,
AK (12) probably will fold to turn bet unimproved. You hit your pair 20% by turn.
AQ-AT (12+16+16) most likely will fold on turn bet unimproved. You hit your pair 20% by turn.

AA-QQ way behind 12 ways for opponents to have
lose (-7 SBs) 85% of the time. win about 15% of the time (+9 SBs). ** -4.6 SBs

JJ-TT 12 ways you lose 7 SBs 50%. win about 50% of the time getting (9 SBs). *** +1 SBs
77-99 12 ways you lose 7 SBs 50%. win about 60% of the time getting (9 SBs). *** +1 SBs
AK-AQ 24 ways you lose 8 SBs 25%. (when you hit the K you pay off thats why 8) *** +1.75 SBs
win about 25% with pair or better (5 SBs assuming he folds turn),
70% he folds no pair on turn. 75% chance to win (5 SBs).
AJ-AT 32 ways ways you lose 7 SBs 20% *** +2.6 SBs
win about 40% with pair or better (5 SBs assuming he folds turn),
70% he folds no pair on turn. 80% chance to win.
Sooooo

12 ways -4.6
24 ways +1
24 ways +1.75
32 ways +2.6

Seems like you have more ways to win than lose. You could also appy this to AQ, AJ, AT, KJ when you hold those hands

I hope this seems right. What I figure only vs a big pair you lose almost always. VS a smaller pair to your cards its 50/50. All the other non-pairs have to hit to win. Most players assume a big pair on a cap and will fold no pair on turn.
Reply With Quote