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Old 12-03-2005, 07:30 AM
27offsooot 27offsooot is offline
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Default Re: Call, call, call

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Yeah I really think these plays are better suited for higher limits, value bet and raise the [censored] out of these guys at 1/2.

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Yeah, at 30/60, this is probably an easy flop fold. [img]/images/graemlins/tongue.gif[/img]

Okay, so players acting behind you are getting 10:1 on their flop call with an expectation of (at most) ~ 4 bb on turn and river (u won't be raising a turn ace and u can get out if there's a raise on turn and river at this level safely if an ace falls i believe) if they hit at most their 3 outer. So, let's say 18:1 for a three outer, which is about break even. Now factor in the dumb calls they will will make with J10o and the small pps that will come along and the chance that UTG already has a 3 and their adjusted outs is <3. So they lose by calling and the money goes into your pocket most of the times.

In conclusion, don't raise the flop. Raise the river.
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