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But these clowns? Let's see.

UTG+1: "I have paint" (so I raise).
MP3: "I have a pair/paint/some suited rubbish and want to see a flop" (so I call).
Hero: "I have you both pwned so I push".

That's how $11s tend to go..

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Tigerite, your accuracy in determining hand ranges never ceases to amaze me. Well put.

OP your out of position so a call here will put you in a very akward position on the flop. Even if a J spikes.

As for reraising, this is bad also because AA-QQ will still come over the top, as well as lower pairs and AK, hell even AQ would do this at the $11s, and your calling that all-in anyway, so why not push to begin with? However, by pushing everyone else’s thinking shifts to:

-“He probably has paint so my 44 is a race that I will win often enough.”
Or
-“He probably has a low pair, like 44, so my paint has pot odds to win this race often enough”.

Now, after donkbreath calls and sucks out, you must follow up with a “nice call” to keep him from second guessing himself.
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