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Old 11-16-2005, 10:14 PM
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Default Re: KQs, how was this hand ?

I'd fold this one preflop unless i have a good read on UTG.

The flop call is close, but i think it is ok. If you count your overcards as 2.5 outs, then you do have about 4 outs with your bdfd. I think that is enough even against those preflop raises.

The pot is extremely large and you do have chances to win it.

SSHE says in large pots you should continue even when you suspect you are drawing dead.

The turn-raise isn't for value. It's not good to semi-bluff here either. But there's something that just came up in my mind and i'm not sure if my thinking is correct, but:

1. With your fd the pot is large enough to call.

2. Even if UTG 3-bets you have to pay 3 bets to win a pot of at least 13.75, giving you 4.58:1.

3. CO and/or (more likely) MP1 easily could have AK or AQ.

Point 1 forces you to not fold.

Point 2 says you don't have to fear UTG 3-betting too much.

So what does point 3 tell you?

Well if one or both really do have AK and/or AQ, your raise might buy you 2 (maybe even 4) outs, if it makes them fold those hands.

This raise could win you the hand!!!

Any opinions on that?
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