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Old 12-21-2005, 05:16 PM
Dave D Dave D is offline
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Default Re: all in or stop and go?

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I think this is a perfect spot for a stop and go. You'll be acting first on the flop. You're ahead of his range. You have no folding equity. And there's a better chance that he has overcards then a smaller pair.

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Isn't the purpose of an SnG to increase fold equity? If we think we have none with villian, what's the point of going from none to tiny? I say push right away and don't give villian a chance to hit.

OP said that villian is capable of calling with second pair, ie we have even less FE on the flop than normal. He called with KJ on a AJx board that was two suited having no clubs. It sounds like an awful call, presumably against a shorty, but it also means villian won't be bluffed off his hand if he hits. This is virtually the same situation we're in. The purpose of an SnG is to try to get someone to fold a hamd they might have won with otherwise (ie the better hand), but villian has shown that he's not one to get pushed off a hand, especially against a shorty. So the SnG is simply unlikely to work here.

Incidently, villian could have just been raising to steal, pushing PF could just make villian say "ok take it" and we win a reasonable pot. Calling allows him to hit his A3 when he would have otherwise folded.
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