[xorbie]

The thing you have to think about is this. What sort of hand is MP limping here that he is willing to raise knowing he is very likely to get called by any legitimate hand hero has (he essentially just minraised). I peg him for set or very strong draw, and CO with roughyl the same range but adding in some 99-JJ type hands. I agree that calling has great odds, but you're just so likely to be drawing dead, and there's such bad odds at play here because it's so tough to read the outs here. Any A sucks, a 2 or 7, a [img]/images/graemlins/diamond.gif[/img], who knows what might make someone a set on the turn.