I really appreciate the responses, they have definately got me thinking in a few directions.

I’ve definitely got a mixed response on this hand that makes me wonder who is right. I’ve gotten fold the flop or raise the flop I’ve gotten raise the turn, I’ve gotten I played it right, I’ve gotten a very strong you can’t fold the turn.

So, I’ve gotten nowhere, someone please tell me who’s right. Lol, that won’t work anyway as I don’t know who to believe. Maybe after I spend more time reading this forum I’ll get a feel for who the heavy weights are.

Let me try to analyze the turn although I’m so new to O8 that I’m not sure of my judgment on hand strength. Hopefully then you all can pick away at my assumptions which should be educational to me.

The turn card was a blank yet the SB bets into 4 players including the flop better. I really have to discount my Q high flush here, I’m guessing I’m only better than the SB for high 25% of the time and better than the Button for high 33% of the time.

I’ve got 4 outs to the nut low, which may result in a split let’s just guess 10% of the time. I’ve got 12 outs to the 2nd nut low, let’s say that’s a split 10% and when it doesn’t split I win 66% of the time vs. the SB and 66% of the time vs. the button.

I’m assuming on average it will cost 2 BB to see the river and the amount for me to win if I scoop is 9BB.

Catch the nut low and win low = 4/44 * 90% = 8.2% * 4.5 = .37 BB
Catch the nut low and tie low = 4/44 * 10% = 0.9% * 2.25 = .02
Catch the 2nd nut low and win low = 12/44 * 90% *66% * 66% = 11% * 4.5 = .48
Catch the 2nd nut low and tie low = 12/44 * 10% = 3% * 2.25 = .06

Make the low and win high = 12/44 * 25% * 33% = 2% * 4.5 = .10
Miss the low but win high = 32/44 * 25% * 33% = 6% * 4.5 = .27

Lose both high and low 1 – (8.2% + 0.9% + 11% + 3% +2% +6%) = 69% * -2 = -1.38

Total (big caveat: if my assumptions and math are correct) = - 0.08 BB

I’ve done this type of work up for Hold’em, wow, it’s much more complicated for a split pot game.